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BMS-BVR经验总结、讨论集中贴~

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发表于 2011-11-20 16:54:59 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Ragnarok 于 2011-11-20 22:44 编辑

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevity_code

Notch
All aspect missile defensive maneuver to place threat radar/missile on the beam. Modern pulse-doppler radars remove ground clutter by filtering out returns from stationary objects; putting the threat on the beam permits the defending aircraft to be confused with ground returns and hence disappear from the threat radar. (Direction)

Beam/beaming
Target stabilized within 70 to 110 degree aspect; generally (direction) given with cardinal directions: east, west, north, or south

OPERATIONAL BREVITY WORDS, DEFINITIONS, AND COUNTERAIR (AFTTP 3-1.1)

NOTCH(ING) (w/direction)—Directive (informative) for an all-aspect missile defensive
maneuver to place threat radar/missile near the beam.

BEAM (w/cardinal direction)—Target stabilized within 70 to 110 degrees of aspect;
generally given in cardinal directions:  east, west, north, and south.

lockon_fc2_flight_manual_en

The rate of closure of the surrounding terrain effectively generates a primary "notch" in the radar's
sensitivity, due to ground-reflected signals ("clutter") received along the axis of the main radar beam.
Target signals in this "look down clutter notch" are rejected by filtering as if they were ground clutter,
allowing beaming targets to break a radar lock. Antenna focusing is never perfect, however, and
some transmitted energy also spills out in unintended directions called sidelobes. This energy can
also be reflected from the ground, and re-enter the antenna from the sidelobe directions. If a fighter
is flying at low altitude, signals reflected from the ground may enter the radar and appear on the
scope as additional clutter, with a closure equal to the fighter's rate of climb or descent, and a range
equal to the fighter's altitude. If the fighter is in pursuit against a fleeing target travelling at the same
speed and range, the target signals may become lost in sidelobe clutter, breaking the lock. This can
create a secondary "notch" in the fighter's radar sensitivity.  

旁瓣notch在CN101的一个帖子里有说到:http://falcon4.uueasy.com/read.php?tid=363&page=1&toread=1#tpc

发表于 2011-11-20 17:22:51 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Ragnarok 于 2011-11-20 20:54 编辑

我说过这不是一个经验可以完美解决的问题。

What we need is fucking science, serious science!

日本的关于导弹空战的基础理论研究:
A METHOD TO SOLVE MISSILE-AIRCRAFT PURSUIT-EVASION DIFFERENTIAL GAMES

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发表于 2011-11-20 18:04:32 | 显示全部楼层
学习学习
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-21 09:00:47 | 显示全部楼层
昨天无意间发现了一个文档~~~


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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-22 11:12:00 | 显示全部楼层
另外发现一个规避的方面其实回想一下,我们在发射导弹时最讨厌对手做什么呢?那就是我们应该做的。
最近还在研究RWR的显示M提示时的相关情况,开着ECM就算是ACE级别的MIG29S还是很2,所以只能不带ECM和MIG29玩~
发表于 2011-11-22 12:06:34 | 显示全部楼层
7G里的现役蜜蜂飞行员cmatt对于导弹规避是这样说的:

"I would immediately jettison the A/G stores via E-Jett (in this case, you retain the missiles) and trade altitude for airspeed initially, looking for 450 KCAS or so. Then I would commence turn to beam the missile or radar sight and commence a pull to 45 degrees nose up. As the airspeed decreases I would roll over and expend chaff at the apex and repeat until the missile is past or the spike goes away. As a last ditch, you could begin a barrel roll towards or away from the missile, to give the biggest geometry problem. Of course this depends on the missile and guidance type, but this should keep you alive for a little longer. Try and avoid trading too much altitude, as you end up in the heart of the envelope of many SAMs. You are unlikely to defeat the tracking radar, but you should be able to defeat the missile given that it launched at max range. Your chances get slimmer the closer you get to the site, and they make some very serious sams these days."

不知道这个是不是真实中的战术, 不过就我看来以上规避方法主要还是对SAM而言的.
发表于 2011-11-22 12:09:32 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Ragnarok 于 2011-11-22 12:16 编辑

and they make some very serious sams these days. Russian SAMs FTW!
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-22 15:03:18 | 显示全部楼层
rois 发表于 2011-11-22 12:06
7G里的现役蜜蜂飞行员cmatt对于导弹规避是这样说的:

"I would immediately jettison the A/G stores via ...

基本战术大家都应该会,用起来提升的不只是一个人的实力而是所有人的生存能力。BVR和SAM的规避基础还是相同的,离得越远越安全~~

另外肉肉在DF里面玩BVR,AI太傻的,你一直BEAM着飞,敌机基本不发射导弹,直接10海里发射120打它。我这个BVR训练用的TE算是最难的了,高度26000ft我成功率最低(不开ECM),开ECM还是没难度~

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发表于 2011-11-22 18:07:07 | 显示全部楼层
rois 发表于 2011-11-22 12:06
7G里的现役蜜蜂飞行员cmatt对于导弹规避是这样说的:

"I would immediately jettison the A/G stores via ...

我不管这是不是真的,我只知道我爱肉,我要吃肉!切切切肉!
发表于 2011-11-22 23:16:43 | 显示全部楼层
overstrain 发表于 2011-11-22 15:03
基本战术大家都应该会,用起来提升的不只是一个人的实力而是所有人的生存能力。BVR和SAM的规避基础还是相 ...

试了一下MiG29S,没什么难度啊。。。。。。。

有难度的还是战役里的SU27和SU30,30NM就抢占高度发射R77了,接下来你又烧不穿他的ECM。。。。。
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-23 08:58:14 | 显示全部楼层
foxwxl 发表于 2011-11-22 23:16
试了一下MiG29S,没什么难度啊。。。。。。。

有难度的还是战役里的SU27和SU30,30NM就抢占高度发射R7 ...

你自己是不是开的干扰?
发表于 2011-11-23 09:58:53 | 显示全部楼层

RE: BMS-BVR经验总结、讨论集中贴~

overstrain 发表于 2011-11-23 08:58
你自己是不是开的干扰?

没有啊,你的TE也没给ALQ131那…连TGP都没有……

我2次都在Ropt首发命中…在TTA=0进行主动回避,这样R77甚至无法捕获你
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-23 10:34:30 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 overstrain 于 2011-11-23 10:59 编辑
foxwxl 发表于 2011-11-23 09:58
没有啊,你的TE也没给ALQ131那…连TGP都没有……

我2次都在Ropt首发命中…在TTA=0进行主动回避,这样R ...

啊,怎么又穿越了。。。
难道我上传错了~~

不过这个现在对我来说难度也不大了,只要不硬拼威胁没那么大。昨天还和僚机配合了一下用9X干掉了一架没有R77的SU27~

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发表于 2011-11-23 11:09:36 | 显示全部楼层
我一般战役出门都是全120…不带9,僚机发几个9M,AI僚机比较怕带R77的SU27/30很容易被击落或者对掉…
发表于 2011-12-7 10:50:28 | 显示全部楼层
foxwxl 发表于 2011-11-18 13:12
关键是意识,提前预判导弹攻击,及时破坏对方中继制导,这样对方的R77甚至根本不能捕获你。

BMS对导弹有一 ...

我觉得bms里面导弹的能量是不是太足了,张明德写得《真实世界的空空导弹》一文中中程导弹的发动机燃烧时间也就9秒多吧,感觉bms里面的导弹动力方面的表现远远超过这一点啊
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