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[讨论] 那种游戏比较真实?

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发表于 2012-1-12 15:11:00 | 显示全部楼层
Ragnarok 发表于 2012-1-12 15:06
我修改了战役中队友的配置,拿普通狙击枪那个家伙用切塔克金枪,我拿了把XM-109和一个热成像SCARII。剩下 ...

战役中改配置我经常干的哈哈~~~不过我习惯用M24,弹道表都贴出来了
发表于 2012-1-12 15:13:57 | 显示全部楼层
LJQC 发表于 2012-1-12 15:11
战役中改配置我经常干的哈哈~~~不过我习惯用M24,弹道表都贴出来了

嗯,那枪声音很清脆,也很准。不过我喜欢贵重的高科技武器:加装了热成像设备的一个狙击枪,忘了叫什么了。XM-109也挺有用,能对付对付轻装甲。
发表于 2012-1-12 15:24:27 | 显示全部楼层
Ragnarok 发表于 2012-1-12 14:29
NOT prepare 3D !

Are you prepar3d?

BMS直接用的某个拿分析用的F-16的数据,据说低于跨音速的气动做的不错,跨音速和超音速不行,不过任何一个模拟的跨音速和超音速的气动都不怎么样....这个可以问老千............
PS:不过说真的,现在的跨音速数学模型都不是很健全,更别说游戏里的了......
发表于 2012-1-12 15:49:25 | 显示全部楼层
支持BMS
发表于 2012-1-12 16:04:56 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-1-12 16:22:54 | 显示全部楼层
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F风 发表于 2012-1-12 15:24
BMS直接用的某个拿分析用的F-16的数据,据说低于跨音速的气动做的不错,跨音速和超音速不行,不过任何一个 ...

这点我们都知道~~BMS4所使用的NASA TP 1538中的各种力矩系数(包括Cm、Cn、Cl等)只有0.6马赫下的数据,他们把这用在了整个飞行包线上。但BMS4用的HFFM数据(包括CL、CD、CY、推力数据等)把0马赫到2.2马赫都包含了进去。

The Aerodynamic Data

The aerodynamic data used in this NASA simulation were derived from low-speed wing static and dynamic (force oscillation) wind-tunnel tests of sub-scale models of the F-16 in wind-tunnel facilities at the NASA Ames and Langley research Centers.

There are 6 “global” aerodynamic coefficients to completely describe a model:

The Forces:

·CL : Lift Coefficient (reference airflow)
·CD : Drag Coefficient (reference airflow)
·CY : Y-Axis Force Coefficient (reference body)

The Moments:

·Cm : pitching moment
·Cn : yawing moment
·Cl : rolling moment

The NASA performed wind tunnel testing to evaluate all those parameters in a maximum of possible conditions (static and dynamic). However those testing have been performed at mach 0.6 equivalents--which would have been totally insufficient for our model dedicated to fly in the whole flight envelope.

Thankfully, HFFM data were retro engineered from real performance charts, which means HFFM data included CL and CD for the whole flight envelope (mach 0 to mach 2.2).

For the moments coefficients, no other data other than mach 0.6 wind tunnel testing were available. However, because of the FLCS, the pitch/roll/yaw behavior is fully controlled artificially across the whole flight envelope. We can say that using mach 0.6 moments coefficient for the whole flight envelope will not make the flight model deviate from the real too much. Indeed, from mach 0 to mach 0.9, the moments coefficient do not evolve that much and above mach 0.9, it is clear that the model evolves in a very low AOA envelope and therefore the pitching/rolling/yawing reactions of the model are much governed via the FLCS than from the pure aerodynamics coefficient.

Finally it has been chosen to use:


·HFFM data for CL/CD (and Thrust)
·NASA data for all other coefficients.

The association of HFFM and NASA data certainly ensures a very high level of F-16 simulation accuracy through the whole flight envelope.
发表于 2012-1-12 17:36:15 | 显示全部楼层
果然又开始了
发表于 2012-1-12 18:03:12 | 显示全部楼层
,另外枪也打不准,有时候狙击手瞄着敌人脑袋打都没打上。

这才叫真实啊。。。谁说瞄到脑袋就一定打中 啊
发表于 2012-1-12 18:14:47 | 显示全部楼层
- - 你们又来了。。。。。 为什么一定要有这种无意义的比较。。。
发表于 2012-1-12 18:20:48 | 显示全部楼层
这种比较总是让人欲罢不能,一点就着
发表于 2012-1-12 18:40:34 | 显示全部楼层
我是谁啊 发表于 2012-1-12 18:20
这种比较总是让人欲罢不能,一点就着

= = 说实话,我也是。。。 握爪

每次看到这种标题就不淡定……
发表于 2012-1-12 18:45:36 | 显示全部楼层
总之大多都是些主观的评价,仅供参考~~就看LZ喜欢飞A-10C还是F-16了
发表于 2012-1-12 18:46:20 | 显示全部楼层
LJQC 发表于 2012-1-12 16:22
这点我们都知道~~BMS4所使用的NASA TP 1538中的各种力矩系数(包括Cm、Cn、Cl等)只有0.6马赫下的数据, ...

用0.6以下的套用0.6以上的............这个就比较囧了,从跨音速开始系数就开始变化了...........
发表于 2012-1-12 18:49:58 | 显示全部楼层
F风 发表于 2012-1-12 18:46
用0.6以下的套用0.6以上的............这个就比较囧了,从跨音速开始系数就开始变化了...........

这个就没办法了,那里面只有0.6马赫的数据~~~不过我还是相信Mav-JP说的:using mach 0.6 moments coefficient for the whole flight envelope will not make the flight model deviate from the real too much.
发表于 2012-1-12 19:03:20 | 显示全部楼层
Ragnarok 发表于 2012-1-12 15:13
嗯,那枪声音很清脆,也很准。不过我喜欢贵重的高科技武器:加装了热成像设备的一个狙击枪,忘了叫什么了 ...

也许你可以去试试法国未来战士系统:http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzQxOTU0NTQ4.html
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